Where is the SMC Chip?

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Mac Pro 2013

The 2013 revamp of the desktop Mac series known as the Mac Pro.

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Where is the SMC Chip?

Hi everybody, I am wondering where is the smc chip on the mac pro, because of PFM006 (no ppn001), can someone help me?

Edit 9/21/2023:

Fixed!

Basically install OCLP and go in settings advanced disable thermal throttling.

Fans still go to 2600 rpm without Mac’s fan control but keep it around 1860 if it’s idle or basic things.

Good way to keep something alive for 10 years!

Don’t do this if you are not familiar with OCLP or Mac hardware.

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The SMC is located on the backside of this daughterboard all the way at the base of the machine.

You're getting that result in diagnostics, but what sort of symptoms are you getting? Is the machine not powering on, or booting up? or something else altogether?

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The machine is booting up but the fan keeps cranking up to full power and very slow.

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@notveryexperien This is actually pretty typical behavior when a Mac is not getting data, or is getting data outside an acceptable range from a a sensor somewhere. The Mac Pro has a LOT of sensors and ultimately they all talk to the SMC. Hence the reason why it flags that as an error. This could be any number of components. If you want a WHOLE lot of data, you can parse through Apple's Service Manual (2013 MP Repair Manual) for this. I would be especially interested about the "Computer Runs Hot" section which starts on page 129. Running things like AST (Apple Service Toolkit) are not possible as a normal user of these devices in my recollection. But there are a lot of parts in one of these Mac pros and there are sensors on a lot of them, this might help regardless of its "Apple speak."

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Sorry for the late comment, does it mean I have to change the logic board? Or a gpu? Also, in the manual it says i do smc reset but still the fan keeps cranking up.

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@notveryexperien It depends on which sensor is causing the issue. It could be bunch of different things. They do not always make it easy to determine which sensor is causing your issue without use of Apple’s internal diagnostic suite.

I might recommend downloading TG Pro to see it can shed some light. It won’t tell you about specific sensor issues with the free version, but we may be able to glean info from the information there anyway. Post a screenshot of your results in your original answer.

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Well I decided to use Windows instead but PSU Secondary Heatsink and PCH Switch Diode shows no readout, Maybe it could be dead.

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The machine is booting up but the fan keeps cranking up to full power and very slow. — Notveryexperiencedguy
@notveryexperien This is actually pretty typical behavior when a Mac is not getting data, or is getting data outside an acceptable range from a a sensor somewhere. The Mac Pro has a LOT of sensors and ultimately they all talk to the SMC. Hence the reason why it flags that as an error. This could be any number of components. If you want a WHOLE lot of data, you can parse through Apple's Service Manual (2013 MP Repair Manual) for this. I would be especially interested about the "Computer Runs Hot" section which starts on page 129. Running things like AST (Apple Service Toolkit) are not possible as a normal user of these devices in my recollection. But there are a lot of parts in one of these Mac pros and there are sensors on a lot of them, this might help regardless of its "Apple speak." — Alisha C
Sorry for the late comment, does it mean I have to change the logic board? Or a gpu? Also, in the manual it says i do smc reset but still the fan keeps cranking up. — Notveryexperiencedguy
@notveryexperien It depends on which sensor is causing the issue. It could be bunch of different things. They do not always make it easy to determine which sensor is causing your issue without use of Apple’s internal diagnostic suite.

I might recommend downloading TG Pro to see it can shed some light. It won’t tell you about specific sensor issues with the free version, but we may be able to glean info from the information there anyway. Post a screenshot of your results in your original answer. — Alisha C
Well I decided to use Windows instead but PSU Secondary Heatsink and PCH Switch Diode shows no readout, Maybe it could be dead. — Notveryexperiencedguy

Mac Pro 2013

Where is the SMC Chip?

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