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Rapid loose of battery power under 30% of loading level

My new battery (30 loading cycles) shows a health of 103% and it keeps running for between 3.5 to 4.5 hours of normal usage with a average drain of 20-20 W. So this looks quite good to me.

But when my battery gets down to 30% of loading, it will unload quit fast and be fully empty within 15 minutes. To get from 100% to 30% it takes at least 3 hours.

Is this just a bad measurement od sensors and a problem with the Apple interface communication? After some dark sleep it seems that the battery loading is somehow indicating too much load, too. Is this still a normal behavior?

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The battery info is the same for the 2 questions posted?

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Yes, that's right. It's the same battery.

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Let's get a bit more info, install this gem of an App CoconutBattery with the system under charge take a snapshot of the Apps main window posting it here for us to see.

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@hirsch75736 - Can't say, as I have nothing to work from which is why I skied for the screen shot.

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I somehow answered the wrong issue here, sorry for that. I cannot attach the screenshot here?

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@hirsch75736 I edited the question and added the image there ;)

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@hirsch75736 - This appears to be the same system with your other question. I’ve answered it there. To offer a bit more context the Intel chip used in this series when full out exceeds the power draw from the charger and starts using what the battery has to fill the power gap. The length of time the of this heavy power draw will exhaust the banked power and the system will shut down if the systems thermals were not an issue by placing the system into a freezer! Many young video production studios did this to render their work as there just not even an option with a Mac desktop system. And even Apples release of a new MacPro system was just too much for many.

Basically the Use needs outstripped what hardware folks where making and the needed tech was not available. Both Intel and Apple gambled and since Intel over promised what they could deliver ended up with most of the mess on them. Apple like-wise got stung as they believed in what Intel was promising and caught up in the Thermals of this chip series.

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Hi @danj, I guess I was not able to describe it the way that you can understand it.

This question is just not about a termal issue, really.

Even if I start the computer from a dark sleep in the morning and battery charge is 33% without being connected to a charger, the battery charge level will drop as soon as it reaches something about 30%. Then it will drop to 7% within 10 minutes, even with a cold battery.

If It is charged at maybe 90% (and disconnected from the charger) it will take 1 hour in use to get it to 70% charge level - without being connected to a cable. Just the charge level of the battery. So around 20-25% charge level per hour.

I can use the battery for about 4-4.5 hours.

So there is no heat, there is no charging. It is about the battery delivering it's power.

If the battery has only 30% charge left, it will drop quite fast to 7% and lower. It has nothing to do with heat. It deals with the discharging speed of the battery solely.

So either the battery is bad or the communication between the mainboard and the battery chip with regards to it's real charging status.

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Let's give this a try, within Activity monitor you can track the batterywith what Apple offers.

Here's how you can use Activity Monitor to track your battery:

Time on Battery:

- The "Time on Battery (unplugged)" and "Time remaining (unplugged)" metrics provide information about how long your Mac has been running on battery and how much time is estimated to remain.

Battery Charge Level:

- The "Battery (Last 12 hours)" graph shows the battery charge level over the previous 12 hours.

Energy Impact:

- The "Energy Impact" measure helps you identify which applications are using the most energy, allowing you to potentially reduce battery drain by closing resource-intensive apps.

12hr Power:

- The "12hr Power" column in the Energy pane indicates the average energy impact of each application over the last 12 hours.

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To view this information:

- Open Activity Monitor App

- Click on the "Energy" tab at the top. 

- Look for the information related to battery usage, including "Time on Battery (unplugged)", "Time remaining (unplugged)", and the "Battery (Last 12 hours)" graph. 

- Look at the "Energy Impact" and "12hr Power" columns to identify apps that are consuming significant energy. 

From Apple's guide View energy consumption in Activity Monitor on Mac

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@danj thanks for your enduring help!

So these metrics do look misleading to me. T

Especially the "Time remaining" is absolutely not possible. I guess it is exactly because of this drain from 30% to 7%-5%, my question is about. Considering this range with a normal behavior would result in this estimate. But as this percentage range shows a different behavior it is no realistic guess. Here are the images:

https://imgur.com/a/F7mlGU9

The consuming apps look quite like it is.

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