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Model A1225 / Early 2009 / 2.66, 2.93, or 3.06 GHz Core 2 Duo processor

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Power Supply pin (voltage, start other?)

Hello,

I would like some insights about iMac's power supplies, especially the Early 2009 24" (A1225 EMC 2267).

I decided to tinker with an old broken iMac (machine that shuts itself down) to make it a Media Center with my Rasberry Pi and its Hifiberry + an LCD controller. But to do it right, I need to use the power supply for the screen (+ fan and why not also power the raspi).

But for that, I need two things:

The voltages (and current) of the output connectors which are obviously not standard (12 pins for the 12v-3.3v and 12 pins for the 24v that runs towards the inverter of the screen, although for the latter, I don't really care).

Know which pins to connect to activate the power supply (if I had this element, I could measure the voltages myself).

For now, I've spotted three things:

* Pin 1 = Ground

* Pin 2 = 12v always on

* Pin 4 = 3.3v always on

* Pin 6 = Ground

For the rest, I'm drying up, if you'd give me a hand, I'd be extremely grateful.

Update (08/09/2019)

Hello,

I've made some progress in my tests, I've managed to activate the power supply!

It is sufficient to make a bridge between the ground (PIN 1,6,7,12) and the 3.3V (PIN 4), which activates pins 8, 9, 10

So we end up with these values:

On the 12V output (2x6 pins)

  • Pin 1 = GND
  • Pin 2 = 12VDC -> Always On
  • Pin 3 = GND -> if SATA connected
  • Pin 4 = 3.3VDC -> Always On -> PS_ON
  • Pin 5 =?
  • Pin 6 = GND
  • Pin 7 = GND
  • Pin 8 = 12VDC -> If On
  • Pin 9 = 12VDC -> If On
  • Pin 10 = 12VDC -> If On
  • Pin 11 =?
  • Pin 12 = GND

On the 24v output (1x12 pins)

  • Pin 1 = 24VDC -> Always On
  • Pin 2 = 24VDC -> Always On
  • Pin 3 = 24VDC -> Always On
  • Pin 4 = 24VDC -> Always On
  • Pin 5 = 24VDC -> Always On
  • Pin 6 = GND
  • Pin 7 = GND
  • Pin 8 = GND
  • Pin 9 = GND
  • Pin 10 = GND
  • Pin 11 =?
  • Pin 12 =?

A last connector is present on the power supply, it is a ground that seems to be dedicated to the 5V (it is connected to one of the SATA GNDs and to the motherboard).

We can see that this power supply only provides 12V and 24V, as surprising as it may seem, it is the motherboard that is in charge of transforming the 12V into 5V! (the cable between the power supply, the motherboard and the hard disk confirms it).

So I still have Pin 5 and 11 on the 12V port and Pin 11 and 12 on the 24V port which are a mystery (if someone has an idea, I'm a buyer)...

I found the electrical schematic of a Liteon PE324101UN-LF power supply (which also seems to be used in other iMacs), there seems to be some info, but I can only guess the usefulness of these pins....

On the 12V output (2x6 pins)

  • Pin 1 >>- +12V
  • Pin 2 >>- +12V
  • Pin 3 >>- +12V
  • Pin 4 >>- GND
  • Pin 5 >>- GND
  • Pin 6 >>- GND
  • Pin 7 >>- +5VS
  • Pin 8 >>- +5VS
  • Pin 9 >>- +5VS
  • Pin 10 <<<- AC_DET (Alternating Current Detection?)
  • Pin 11 <<<- P_DIM (Power DIMming?)
  • Pin 12 <<<- BL (LCD BackLight?)
  • Pin 12 <<<- PS_ON (PowerSupply ON !)

On both 24v outputs (1x12 pins)

  • Pin 1 >>- 24V
  • Pin 2 >>- 24V
  • Pin 3 >>- 24V
  • Pin 4 >>- 24V
  • Pin 5 >>- 24V
  • Pin 6 >>- GND
  • Pin 7 >>- GND
  • Pin 8 >>- GND
  • Pin 9 >>- GND
  • Pin 10 >>- GND
  • Pin 11 <<<- P_DIM (Power DIMMING?)
  • Pin 12 <<<- BL_ON (BackLight ON?)

For AC_DET, I found this definition:

AC adapter voltage detection input. Valid AC adapter input range is set using resistors forming a voltage divider which are connected between ACDET & GND and ACDET & AC adapter.

P_DIM should reduce the output power of the 24V PINs to reduce the brightness of the display?

BL_ON, turn on the LCD?

In short, full of new questions.

Update (09/09/2019)

Well, I finally succeeded in measuring everything I wanted.

I made a little schematic for those who would be interested.

If there's a mistake, don't hesitate to tell me.

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oldturkey03> BL_ON needs to be powered in 5v to turn on the screen. For P_Dim, it's more complicated, I think it's about frequency, but the LCD converter will do it.

mayer>My power supply works very well, it is here a question of knowing what its specifications are to power a Raspberry Pi and other accessories without Apple motherboard! ;)

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@mrsoul I got totally lost with your measurements. Which connector(s) are you looking at? BL_On only turns your backlight on not the LCD. P_Dim seems to be high at 24V Post some pictures of what you measure where Adding images to an existing question

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Hi MrSoul,

I plan something slightly different than you. I want to use my old iMac as an external monitor. After the logic board died, I thought this would be a nice DIY project.

Thank you for your schematics of the connectors. These hleped me so far a lot. Maybe you can help me a little more.

I use an M.NT68676.2 LCD driver board and the original apple psu. I soldered the 12V from the board to the pins 8,9 and GND to pins 1,7. BL_ON to pin 11. Pins 4 and 1 are bridged to turn the psu on. So far so good, I think I didnt make a mistake. But when I turn power on and I turn on the driver board, I see a picture but backlite goes off. I I turn off the board, I cant see any picture but the backlite goes on.

Do you have any idea here what to do?


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Hi Felix, the symptoms you are indicating make me think of a reversal of BL_ON and P_DIM (I had this problem at the beginning). I think these two pins are reversed on my diagram.

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This is the last schematic : https://share.remy-photographie.com/stor...

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I encourage you to use a bistable relay like on my shema to turn the power supply and LCD converter on and off cleanly.

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If you ever get tired of trying to fix this, get a new one here for $50- $60 :

240W or 250W Power Supply for Imac 24" A1225 PA-3241-02A ADP-250AF ADP-240AF 661-4995 614-0416 614-0432,MB418;MB419;MB420

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32808725...

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No one is talking about fixing this power supply, but about retooling it for other projects, so your message is just spam.

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@mrsoul I don't think our moderators are spamming on here. I look at it as a suggestion for a new power supply in case you gave up fixing yours. How about we make it a comment instead of an answer to your question? @yvaneck @oscarsp @guardian10 @jmehnert what do you all think?

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It certainly wasn't meant to be SPAM.

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Thanks for your help, everyone. My dead old 2008 iMac A1225 EMC2211 will have a new life as a simple display.

This is the pinout of the Molex 5569 plug from the genuine Apple ADP-250AFB power supply. Use of the three 12V pin to power the M.NT68676.2A board. Connect GND to GND, Use the 5.5x2.1 connector instead of 12V and GND of the CN5 plug of the M.NT68676.2A.

Connect BL_ON and P_DIM/ADJ respectively to pin 3 and 4 of the CN5.

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can you please send a photo of your conections, thank sssss

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If anyone knows the answer to how to connect, write to me!!! Telegram: @cold3000

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thanks for the info.

I’ve also used the M.NT68676.2 LCD driver board with the original power supply of the imac.

Initially I had also the BL_ON and P_DIM connected wrongly. Switching both of them fixed the issue.

I’ve re-used the cable that was going to the motherboard. For the moment just plugged in the cables in the connector and fixated using tape.

Still need to find a clean solution for attaching the control buttons of the driver board.

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Concerning your cables, I VERY STRONGLY encourage you to make clean welds with heat shrink sleeves to avoid short circuits, bad connections, with this kind of thing is a big risk of fire or at least to kill your equipments.

For the LCD controller buttons, not having the use of it, I ended up installing it inside, under the rotation axis of the foot.

To do this properly, I would need a 3D printer to create a support for the PCB with custom buttons for a series of holes at the back of the mac.

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can you send a photo your conections please! thank youuuu

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A picture would be very nice : )

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