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Smartphone manufactured in 2013 by Alcatel. Model number: 5017B.

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Where on battery is positive and negative

i found phone with no battery but when connected to a charger screen logo turns off and on do i need a battery for the phone to start like normal

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Yes, Unlike some batteries which have +/- sides the iphone batteries are lithium and connect through a single port.  This connection not being present is stopping the phone from powering on. Ie the circuit of power is not complete

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