With Samsung (and ALL of the other manufacturers) they have never had a backdoor on any of the phones since Android 6 (maybe even 5). There WAS a reset on some which used your Google account, but it's been unsupported for years at this point. The option was immediately dropped when the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)]. ***The option we once had in Android (with spotty support) WILL NEVER come back again after that, because Google also sided with Apple. It's too dangerous to have it now that the FBI has made its intentions clear with the All Writs Act order attempt,and was INSTANTLY dropped by everyone who somehow still decided to have it was a good idea after that victory by Apple... Because if you can't get in and the user controls the encryption, you cannot help these agencies and can tell them to pound sand (at least in the US). Even if we found a way to make the FBI try harder to pull the same stunt, I will never support a backdoor like this out of principle and concern there will be a new law they abuse to get around the blockade of the old one. Any phone made on the Android side since is almost certainly encrypted during the OOBE setup, and it's now permanent.***
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With Samsung (and ALL of the other manufacturers) they have never had a backdoor on any of the phones since Android 6 (maybe even 5). There WAS a reset on some which used your Google account, but it's been unsupported for years at this point. All of these backdoors died the moment the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)|new_window=true]. ***The option we once had in Android (with spotty support) is DEAD, and WILL NEVER come back.... Even Google also sided with Apple. They set the precedent that this kind of case is permissible in court if it has a way in, so having anything on the phone is too dangerous now. The issue is the All Writs Act is overreaching. The logic with dropping it is if you can't get in and the user controls the encryption, you cannot help a 3 letter agency if it is technically impossible (at least in the US). Even if we found a way to make the FBI try harder to pull the same stunt, I will not support such a thing now that the FBI made their intentions clear out of principle. Killing one overreaching law means they go in the books to find a new one to abuse. Everyone took such a hard stance on this in general new Android phones are almost certainly encrypted during the OOBE setup... PERMANENTLY. My last (and final) phone with reversible encryption which could be decrypted with a button (but not bypassed) was the LG G4.***
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That said, it may still be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS THE ENCRYPTION KEY (or make it fully inaccessible, even to them) in addition to the private key which is generally held in a area of the phone inaccessible to everything. A lot of these new phones are designed that way intentionally so the usual 3 letter agencies cannot say it's possible and they have to help. This is why Apple won; they locked themselves out of the phone and had a successful defense. A lot of the newer phones also push passcodes harder then ever now too. ***The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4. NO OTHER PHONES since have had a way out.***
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That said, it may still be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, providing the phone does not have an inaccessible encrypted private key, use the passcode to encrypt it or both. A lot of these new phones are designed to intentionally keep the FBI and 3 letter agencies out now. This is why Apple won; they locked themselves out of the phone and had a successful defense and it can be used as a defense by any OEM.
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Yes, I absolutely do feel bad about how it affects people like you, but I'm firmly against adding these backdoors back to phones since there will now be legal leverage because they got shut down via the "technological impossibility"defense. After seeing how messy things once got, I do not trust these agencies to not abuse it due to the legal obligation to assist if it can be done by the manufacturer. ***Having it available is far too dangerous vs. what you gain today, simply because of the All Writs Act. Apple also dropped its backdoor with iOS 8, with the last backdoored devices left running iOS 7. I decided to permanently retire my 4 because of the backdoor being present due to iOS 7 and newer phones since then from Apple not only use the passcode but also hold the key in a secure enclave (with is inaccessible to Apple and the 3 letter agencies). You are absolutely screwed if you forget thanks to the FBI trying to get away with legal abuse.***
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***Yes, I absolutely do feel bad about how it affects people like you, but I'm firmly against adding these backdoors back to phones since there will now be legal leverage even though the FBI got shut down... THEY WILL try again if the door is open. The remote possibility is too dangerous now! The Apple vs. FBI case was the reason I permanently retired my iPhone 4, and non-iOS 8 capable devices. If it lacks a secure enclave, I do not use it for sensitive data since the FBI has learned a few tricks to crack these legacy devices. While you are absolutely screwed now with secure enclaves and non-reversible encryption being the norm, it's for the best for everyone :(.***
With Samsung (and ALL of the other manufacturers) they have never had a backdoor on any of the phones since Android 6 (maybe even 5). There WAS a reset on some which used your Google account, but it's been unsupported for years at this point. The option was immediately dropped when the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)]. ***The option we once had in Android (with spotty support) WILL NEVER come back again after that, because Google also sided with Apple. It's too dangerous to have it now that the FBI has made its intentions clear with the All Writs Act order attempt, and was INSTANTLY dropped by everyone who somehow still decided to have it was a good idea after that victory by Apple... Because if you can't get in and the user controls the encryption, you cannot help these agencies and can tell them to pound sand (at least in the US). Even if we found a way to make the FBI try harder to pull the same stunt, I will never support a backdoor like this out of principle and concern there will be a new law they abuse to get around the blockade of the old one. Any phone made on the Android side since is almost certainly encrypted during the OOBE setup, and it's now permanent.***
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That said, it may still be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS THE ENCRYPTION KEY (or make it fully inaccessible, even to them)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones released now use that method so if these agencies try and order something similar, it's "technologically impossible" and they cannot assist, or even push for the use of a passcode to further lock down these post Apple vs. FBI phones. ***The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4. NO OTHER PHONES since have had a way out.***[br]
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That said, it may still be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS THE ENCRYPTION KEY (or make it fully inaccessible, even to them) in addition to the private key which is generally held in a area of the phone inaccessible to everything. A lot of these new phones are designed that way intentionally so the usual 3 letter agencies cannot say it's possible and they have to help. This is why Apple won; they locked themselves out of the phone and had a successful defense. A lot of the newer phones also push passcodes harder then ever now too. ***The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4. NO OTHER PHONES since have had a way out.***
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Yes, I absolutely do feel bad about how it affects people like you, but I'm firmly against adding these backdoors back to phones since there will now be legal leverage because they got shut down via the "technological impossibility" defense. After seeing how messy things once got, I do not trust these agencies to not abuse it due to the legal obligation to assist if it can be done by the manufacturer. ***Having it available is far too dangerous vs. what you gain today, simply because of the All Writs Act. Apple also dropped its backdoor with iOS 8, with the last backdoored devices left running iOS 7. I decided to permanently retire my 4 because of the backdoor being present due to iOS 7 and newer phones since then from Apple not only use the passcode but also hold the key in a secure enclave (with is inaccessible to Apple and the 3 letter agencies). You are absolutely screwed if you forget thanks to the FBI trying to get away with legal abuse.***
With Samsung (and ALL of the other manufacturers) they have never had a backdoor on any of the phones since Android 6 (maybe even 5). There WAS a reset on some which used your Google account, but it's been unsupported for years at this point. The option was immediately dropped when the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)]. ***The option we once had in Android (with spotty support) WILL NEVER come back again after that, because Google also sided with Apple. It's too dangerous to have it now that the FBI has made its intentions clear with the All Writs Act order attempt, and was INSTANTLY dropped by everyone who somehow still decided to have it was a good idea after that victory by Apple... Because if you can't get in and the user controls the encryption, you cannot help these agencies and can tell them to pound sand (at least in the US). Even if we found a way to make the FBI try harder to pull the same stunt, I will never support a backdoor like this out of principle and concern there will be a new law they abuse to get around the blockade of the old one. Any phone made on the Android side since is almost certainly encrypted during the OOBE setup, and it's now permanent.***
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That said, it may still be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS THE ENCRYPTION KEY (or make it fully inaccessible, even to them)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones released now use that method so if these agencies try and order something similar, it's "technologically impossible" and they cannot assist, or even push for the use of a passcode to further lock down these post Apple vs. FBI phones. ***The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4. NO OTHER PHONES since have had a way out.***[br]
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Yes, I absolutely do feel bad about how it affects people like you, but I'm firmly against adding these backdoors back to phones since there will now be legal leverage because they got shut down via the "technological impossibility" defense. After seeing how messy things once got, I do not trust these agencies to not abuse it due to the legal obligation to assist if it can be done by the manufacturer. ***Having it available is far too dangerous vs. what you gain today, simply because of the All Writs Act. Apple also dropped its backdoor with iOS 8, with the last backdoored devices left running iOS 7. I decided to permanently retire my 4 because of the backdoor being present due to iOS 7 and newer phones since then encrypt the phones with a key only held in the secure enclave (with is inaccessible to Apple and 3 letter agenies) as well as the passcode. You are absolutely screwed if you forget thanks to the FBI trying to get away with legal abuse.***
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Yes, I absolutely do feel bad about how it affects people like you, but I'm firmly against adding these backdoors back to phones since there will now be legal leverage because they got shut down via the "technological impossibility" defense. After seeing how messy things once got, I do not trust these agencies to not abuse it due to the legal obligation to assist if it can be done by the manufacturer. ***Having it available is far too dangerous vs. what you gain today, simply because of the All Writs Act. Apple also dropped its backdoor with iOS 8, with the last backdoored devices left running iOS 7. I decided to permanently retire my 4 because of the backdoor being present due to iOS 7 and newer phones since then from Apple not only use the passcode but also hold the key in a secure enclave (with is inaccessible to Apple and the 3 letter agencies). You are absolutely screwed if you forget thanks to the FBI trying to get away with legal abuse.***
With Samsung (and ALL of the other manufacturers) they have never had a backdoor on any of the phones since Android 6 (maybe even 5). There WAS a reset on some which used your Google account, but it's been unsupported for years at this point. The option was immediately dropped when the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)]. ***The option we once had in Android (with spotty support) WILL NEVER come back again after that, because Google also sided with Apple. It's too dangerous to have it now that the FBI has made its intentions clear with the All Writs Act order attempt, and was INSTANTLY dropped by everyone who somehow still decided to have it was a good idea after that victory by Apple... Because if you can't get in and the user controls the encryption, you cannot help these agencies and can tell them to pound sand (at least in the US). Even if we found a way to make the FBI try harder to pull the same stunt, I will never support a backdoor like this out of principle and concern there will be a new law they abuse to get around the blockade of the old one. Any phone made on the Android side since is almost certainly encrypted during the OOBE setup, and it's now permanent.***
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That said, it may still be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS THE ENCRYPTION KEY (or make it fully inaccessible, even to them)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones released now use that method so if these agencies try and order something similar, it's "technologically impossible" and they cannot assist, or even push for the use of a passcode to further lock down these post Apple vs. FBI phones. ***The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4. NO OTHER PHONES since have had a way out.***[br]
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Yes, I absolutely do feel bad about how it affects people like you, but I'm firmly against adding these backdoors back to phones since there will now be legal leverage because they got shut down via the "technological impossibility" defense. After seeing how messy things once got, I do not trust these agencies to not abuse it due to the legal obligation to assist if it can be done by the manufacturer. ***Having it available is far too dangerous vs. what you gain today, simply because of the All Writs Act. Apple also dropped its backdoor with iOS 8, with the last backdoored devices left running iOS 7. I decided to permanently retire my 4 because of the backdoor being present due to iOS 7 and encrypts the phones with a secure enclave (with is inaccessible to them) as well as the passcode.***
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Yes, I absolutely do feel bad about how it affects people like you, but I'm firmly against adding these backdoors back to phones since there will now be legal leverage because they got shut down via the "technological impossibility" defense. After seeing how messy things once got, I do not trust these agencies to not abuse it due to the legal obligation to assist if it can be done by the manufacturer. ***Having it available is far too dangerous vs. what you gain today, simply because of the All Writs Act. Apple also dropped its backdoor with iOS 8, with the last backdoored devices left running iOS 7. I decided to permanently retire my 4 because of the backdoor being present due to iOS 7 and newer phones since then encrypt the phones with a key only held in the secure enclave (with is inaccessible to Apple and 3 letter agenies) as well as the passcode. You are absolutely screwed if you forget thanks to the FBI trying to get away with legal abuse.***
With Samsung (and ALL of the other manufacturers) they have never had a backdoor on any of the phones since Android 6 (maybe even 5). There WAS a reset on some which used your Google account, but it's been unsupported for years at this point. The option was immediately dropped when the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] and will never come back to avoid setting a dangerous precedent.[br]
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The reason it was instantly dropped is if the manufacturer/SW developer cannot get in, then they can legally tell the FBI to pound sand. Ever since that case went down (and Apple got their way, and we didn't get a dangerous precedent) these newer phones use non-reversible encryption nobody can break, even the manufacturer. Some even permanently encrypt it at the OOBE setup now!
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With Samsung (and ALL of the other manufacturers) they have never had a backdoor on any of the phones since Android 6 (maybe even 5). There WAS a reset on some which used your Google account, but it's been unsupported for years at this point. The option was immediately dropped when the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)]. ***The option we once had in Android (with spotty support) WILL NEVER come back again after that, because Google also sided with Apple. It's too dangerous to have it now that the FBI has made its intentions clear with the All Writs Act order attempt, and was INSTANTLY dropped by everyone who somehow still decided to have it was a good idea after that victory by Apple... Because if you can't get in and the user controls the encryption, you cannot help these agencies and can tell them to pound sand (at least in the US). Even if we found a way to make the FBI try harder to pull the same stunt, I will never support a backdoor like this out of principle and concern there will be a new law they abuse to get around the blockade of the old one. Any phone made on the Android side since is almost certainly encrypted during the OOBE setup, and it's now permanent.***
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That said, it may still be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS THE ENCRYPTION KEY (or make it fully inaccessible, even to them)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones that have been released since the FBI lost are completely unbreakable and require a factory reset.Some even push passcode use. ***The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4. NO OTHER PHONES since have had a way out.***[br]
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I do feel bad about how it affects people like you but I do not trust the FBI (orfrankly, anyone with a 3 letter short name) to have a backdoor just for them. It's a dangerous precedent nobody supports after we saw how the FBI tried to use the law to compel Apple and get their way in 2015. Apple dropped the backdoor in iOS 8 and uses the passcode as encryption as well.
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That said, it may still be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS THE ENCRYPTION KEY (or make it fully inaccessible, even to them)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones released now use that method so if these agencies try and order something similar, it's "technologically impossible" and they cannot assist, or even push for the use of a passcode to further lock down these post Apple vs. FBI phones. ***The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4. NO OTHER PHONES since have had a way out.***[br]
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Yes, I absolutely do feel bad about how it affects people like you, but I'm firmly against adding these backdoors back to phones since there will now be legal leverage because they got shut down via the "technological impossibility" defense. After seeing how messy things once got, I do not trust these agencies to not abuse it due to the legal obligation to assist if it can be done by the manufacturer. ***Having it available is far too dangerous vs. what you gain today, simply because of the All Writs Act. Apple also dropped its backdoor with iOS 8, with the last backdoored devices left running iOS 7. I decided to permanently retire my 4 because of the backdoor being present due to iOS 7 and encrypts the phones with a secure enclave (with is inaccessible to them) as well as the passcode.***
With Samsung (and ALL of the other manufacturers) they have never had a backdoor on any of the phones since Android 6 (maybe even 5). There WAS a reset on some which used your Google account, but it's been unsupported for years at this point. The option was immediately dropped when the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] and will never come back to avoid setting a dangerous precedent.[br]
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The reason it was instantly dropped s if the manufacturer/SW developer cannot get in, then they can legally tell the FBI to pound sand. Ever since that case went down (and Apple got their way, and we didn't get a dangerous precedent) these newer phones use non-reversible encryption nobody can break, even the manufacturer. Some even permanently encrypt it at the OOBE setup now!
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The reason it was instantly dropped is if the manufacturer/SW developer cannot get in, then they can legally tell the FBI to pound sand. Ever since that case went down (and Apple got their way, and we didn't get a dangerous precedent) these newer phones use non-reversible encryption nobody can break, even the manufacturer. Some even permanently encrypt it at the OOBE setup now!
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That said, it may still be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS THE ENCRYPTION KEY (or make it fully inaccessible, even to them)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones that have been released since the FBI lost are completely unbreakable and require a factory reset. Some even push passcode use. ***The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4. NO OTHER PHONES since have had a way out.***[br]
I do feel bad about how it affects people like you but I do not trust the FBI (or frankly, anyone with a 3 letter short name) to have a backdoor just for them. It's a dangerous precedent nobody supports after we saw how the FBI tried to use the law to compel Apple and get their way in 2015. Apple dropped the backdoor in iOS 8 and uses the passcode as encryption as well.
With Samsung (and ALL of the other manufacturers) they have never had a backdoor on any of the phones, at least since Android 6, maybe 5. There was a way prior with the Google account, but it's been unsupported for years at this point. The reason it was dropped without hesitation is because the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)]. The problem was keeping it sets a dangerous precedent, so it was removed and support was abandoned in the blink of an eye. The reason is if the manufacturer/SW developer cannot get in, then they can legally tell the FBI to pound sand. Ever since that case went down, everyone uses non-reversible encryption because the fight that the FBI tried to put up served as a warning.
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With Samsung (and ALL of the other manufacturers) they have never had a backdoor on any of the phones since Android 6 (maybe even 5). There WAS a reset on some which used your Google account, but it's been unsupported for years at this point. The option was immediately dropped when the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] and will never come back to avoid setting a dangerous precedent.[br]
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The reason it was instantly dropped s if the manufacturer/SW developer cannot get in, then they can legally tell the FBI to pound sand. Ever since that case went down (and Apple got their way, and we didn't get a dangerous precedent) these newer phones use non-reversible encryption nobody can break, even the manufacturer. Some even permanently encrypt it at the OOBE setup now!
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That said, it may still be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key, or an inaccessible private key (you and the manufacturer)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones released since the FBI didn't get their permanently encrypt themselves during setup, and push a passcode which also acts as encryption. The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4.[br]
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I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want my phone to be backdoored by anyone,even the manufacturer. It's a dangerous precedent since the FBI tried to compel Apple in 2015. Apple dropped the backdoor in iOS 8 and uses the passcode as encryption as well.
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That said, it may still be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS THE ENCRYPTION KEY (or make it fully inaccessible, even to them)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones that have been released since the FBI lost are completely unbreakable and require a factory reset. Some even push passcode use. ***The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4. NO OTHER PHONES since have had a way out.***[br]
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I do feel bad about how it affects people like you but I do not trust the FBI (or frankly, anyone with a 3 letter short name) to have a backdoor just for them. It's a dangerous precedent nobody supports after we saw how the FBI tried to use the law to compel Apple and get their way in 2015. Apple dropped the backdoor in iOS 8 and uses the passcode as encryption as well.
With Samsung (and ALL of the other manufacturers) they have never had a backdoor on any of the phones, at least since Android 6, maybe 5. There was a way prior with the Google account, but it's been unsupported for years at this point. The reason it was dropped without hesitation is because the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)]. The problem was keeping it sets a dangerous precedent, so it was removed and support was abandoned in the blink of an eye. The reason is if the manufacturer/SW developer cannot get in, then they can legally tell the FBI to pound sand.
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Google and the others are the same; it's not coming back, no matter who makes the phone. After the fight with the FBI, we will not buy a phone from a manufacturer who can potentially be compelled by the FBI if they try again. As such, the manufacturers encrypt it so they're also locked out. Nobody wants that precedent, even once.
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With Samsung (and ALL of the other manufacturers) they have never had a backdoor on any of the phones, at least since Android 6, maybe 5. There was a way prior with the Google account, but it's been unsupported for years at this point. The reason it was dropped without hesitation is because the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)]. The problem was keeping it sets a dangerous precedent, so it was removed and support was abandoned in the blink of an eye. The reason is if the manufacturer/SW developer cannot get in, then they can legally tell the FBI to pound sand. Ever since that case went down, everyone uses non-reversible encryption because the fight that the FBI tried to put up served as a warning.
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That said, it may still be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key, or an inaccessible private key (you and the manufacturer)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones released since the FBI didn't get their permanently encrypt themselves during setup, and push a passcode which also acts as encryption. The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4.[br]
I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want my phone to be backdoored by anyone, even the manufacturer. It's a dangerous precedent since the FBI tried to compel Apple in 2015. Apple dropped the backdoor in iOS 8 and uses the passcode as encryption as well.
With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor. It's been like this since Android 6, so it's been unsupported for years at this point. They used to kind of support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do.
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With Samsung (and ALL of the other manufacturers) they have never had a backdoor on any of the phones, at least since Android 6, maybe 5. There was a way prior with the Google account, but it's been unsupported for years at this point. The reason it was dropped without hesitation is because the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)]. The problem was keeping it sets a dangerous precedent, so it was removed and support was abandoned in the blink of an eye. The reason is if the manufacturer/SW developer cannot get in, then they can legally tell the FBI to pound sand.
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Google and the others are the same; nobody will ever re-enable backup options which can be reversed by the manufacturer after Apple vs. FBI, because if you lock yourselves out of the phone then you can say there's nothing you can do, legally. Nobody wants to set that precedent, so it means in cases where you forget there's no other solution.[br]
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It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key, or an inaccessible private key (you and the manufacturer)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones released since the FBI didn't get their permanently encrypt themselves during setup, and push a passcode which also acts as encryption. The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4.
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Google and the others are the same; it's not coming back, no matter who makes the phone. After the fight with the FBI, we will not buy a phone from a manufacturer who can potentially be compelled by the FBI if they try again. As such, the manufacturers encrypt it so they're also locked out. Nobody wants that precedent, even once.
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That said, it may still be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key, or an inaccessible private key (you and the manufacturer)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones released since the FBI didn't get their permanently encrypt themselves during setup, and push a passcode which also acts as encryption. The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4.[br]
I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want my phone to be backdoored by anyone, even the manufacturer. It's a dangerous precedent since the FBI tried to compel Apple in 2015. Apple dropped the backdoor in iOS 8 and uses the passcode as encryption as well.
With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor. It's been like this since Android 6, so it's been unsupported for years at this point. They used to kind of support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do.
Google and the others are the same; nobody will ever re-enable backup options which can be reversed by the manufacturer after Apple vs. FBI, because if you lock yourselves out of the phone then you can say there's nothing you can do, legally. Nobody wants to set that precedent, so it means in cases where you forget there's no other solution.[br]
It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key, or an inaccessible private key (you and the manufacturer)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones released since the FBI didn't get their permanently encrypt themselves during setup, and push a passcode which also acts as encryption. The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4.
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I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want my phone to be backdoored by anyone, even the manufacturer. It's a dangerous precedent since the FBI tried to compel Apple in 2015. Apple dropped the backdoor in iOS 7 (butdidn't use passcode encryption until iOS 8) as well.
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I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want my phone to be backdoored by anyone, even the manufacturer. It's a dangerous precedent since the FBI tried to compel Apple in 2015. Apple dropped the backdoor in iOS 8 and uses the passcode as encryption as well.
With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor. It's been like this since Android 6, so it's been unsupported for years at this point. They used to kind of support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do.
Google and the others are the same; nobody will ever re-enable backup options which can be reversed by the manufacturer after Apple vs. FBI, because if you lock yourselves out of the phone then you can say there's nothing you can do, legally. Nobody wants to set that precedent, so it means in cases where you forget there's no other solution.[br]
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It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key, or an inaccessible private key (you and the manufacturer)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones released since the FBI didn't get their permanently encrypt themselves during setup, and push a passcode which also acts as encryption.
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It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key, or an inaccessible private key (you and the manufacturer)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones released since the FBI didn't get their permanently encrypt themselves during setup, and push a passcode which also acts as encryption. The last phone I had with reversible encryption was the LG G4.
I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want my phone to be backdoored by anyone, even the manufacturer. It's a dangerous precedent since the FBI tried to compel Apple in 2015. Apple dropped the backdoor in iOS 7 (but didn't use passcode encryption until iOS 8) as well.
With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor. It's been like this since Android 6, so it's been unsupported for years at this point. They used to kind of support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do.
Google and the others are the same; nobody will ever re-enable backup options which can be reversed by the manufacturer after Apple vs. FBI, because if you lock yourselves out of the phone then you can say there's nothing you can do, legally. Nobody wants to set that precedent, so it means in cases where you forget there's no other solution.[br]
It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key, or an inaccessible private key (you and the manufacturer)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones released since the FBI didn't get their permanently encrypt themselves during setup, and push a passcode which also acts as encryption.
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I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want my phone to be backdoored by anyone, even the manufacturer. It's a dangerous precedent since the FBI tried to compel Apple in 2015.
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I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want my phone to be backdoored by anyone, even the manufacturer. It's a dangerous precedent since the FBI tried to compel Apple in 2015. Apple dropped the backdoor in iOS 7 (but didn't use passcode encryption until iOS 8) as well.
With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor. It's been like this since Android 6, so it's been unsupported for years at this point. They used to kind of support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do.
Google and the others are the same; nobody will ever re-enable backup options which can be reversed by the manufacturer after Apple vs. FBI, because if you lock yourselves out of the phone then you can say there's nothing you can do, legally. Nobody wants to set that precedent, so it means in cases where you forget there's no other solution.[br]
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It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key or an inaccessible private key+passcode (even the manufacturer!), or encrypt it one-way by default and will not allow you to decrypt it ever since (like Motorola). I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want my phone to be backdoored by anyone, even the manufacturer. It's a dangerous precedent since the FBI tried to compel Apple in 2015.
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It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key, or an inaccessible private key (you and the manufacturer)+passcode encryption. A lot of the phones released since the FBI didn't get their permanently encrypt themselves during setup, and push a passcode which also acts as encryption.
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I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want my phone to be backdoored by anyone, even the manufacturer. It's a dangerous precedent since the FBI tried to compel Apple in 2015.
With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor. It's been like this since Android 6, so it's been unsupported for years at this point. They used to kind of support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do.
Google and the others are the same; nobody will ever re-enable backup options which can be reversed by the manufacturer after Apple vs. FBI, because if you lock yourselves out of the phone then you can say there's nothing you can do, legally. Nobody wants to set that precedent, so it means in cases where you forget there's no other solution.[br]
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It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key or an inaccessible private key+passcode (even the manufacturer!), or encrypt it one-way by default and will not allow you to decrypt it ever since (like Motorola). I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want the FBI to have the right to demand they can force Apple to decrypt my iPhone because Samsung set the precedent.
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It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key or an inaccessible private key+passcode (even the manufacturer!), or encrypt it one-way by default and will not allow you to decrypt it ever since (like Motorola). I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want my phone to be backdoored by anyone, even the manufacturer. It's a dangerous precedent since the FBI tried to compel Apple in 2015.
With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor. It's been like this since Android 6, so it's been unsupported for years at this point. They used to kind of support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do.
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Google and the others are the same; nobody will ever re-enable backup options which can be reversed by the manufacturer after Apple vs. FBI, because if you lock yourselves out of the phone then you can say there's nothing you can do, legally. Nobody wants to set that precedent, so it means in cases where you forget there's no other solution. It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key or an inaccessible private key+passcode (even the manufacturer!). I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want the FBI to have the right to demand they can force Apple to decrypt my iPhone because Samsung set the precedent.
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Google and the others are the same; nobody will ever re-enable backup options which can be reversed by the manufacturer after Apple vs. FBI, because if you lock yourselves out of the phone then you can say there's nothing you can do, legally. Nobody wants to set that precedent, so it means in cases where you forget there's no other solution.[br]
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It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key or an inaccessible private key+passcode (even the manufacturer!), or encrypt it one-way by default and will not allow you to decrypt it ever since (like Motorola). I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want the FBI to have the right to demand they can force Apple to decrypt my iPhone because Samsung set the precedent.
With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor. It's been like this since Android 6, so it's been unsupported for years at this point. They used to kind of support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do.
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Google and the others are the same; nobody will ever re-enable backup options which can be reversed by the manufacturer after Apple vs. FBI, because if you lock yourselves out of the phone then you can say there's nothing you can do, legally. Nobody wants to set that precedent, so it means in cases where you forget there's no other solution. It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key or an inaccessible private key+passcode (even the manufacturer!). I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want the FBI to have the right to demand they can decrypt my iPhone because Samsung set the precedent.
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Google and the others are the same; nobody will ever re-enable backup options which can be reversed by the manufacturer after Apple vs. FBI, because if you lock yourselves out of the phone then you can say there's nothing you can do, legally. Nobody wants to set that precedent, so it means in cases where you forget there's no other solution. It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key or an inaccessible private key+passcode (even the manufacturer!). I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want the FBI to have the right to demand they can force Apple to decrypt my iPhone because Samsung set the precedent.
With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor. It's been like this since Android 6, so it's been unsupported for years at this point. They used to kind of support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do.
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Google and the others are the same; nobody will ever re-enable backup options which can be reversed by the manufacturer after Apple vs. FBI, because if you lock yourselves out of the phone then you can say there's nothing you can do, legally. Nobody wants to set that precedent, so it means in cases where you forget there's no other solution. It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key or an inaccessible private key+passcode (even the manufacturer!).
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Google and the others are the same; nobody will ever re-enable backup options which can be reversed by the manufacturer after Apple vs. FBI, because if you lock yourselves out of the phone then you can say there's nothing you can do, legally. Nobody wants to set that precedent, so it means in cases where you forget there's no other solution. It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key or an inaccessible private key+passcode (even the manufacturer!). I do feel bad how it affects people like you, but I do not want the FBI to have the right to demand they can decrypt my iPhone because Samsung set the precedent.
With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor. It's been like this since Android 6, so it's been unsupported for years at this point.
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With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor. It's been like this since Android 6, so it's been unsupported for years at this point. They used to kind of support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do.
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They used to kinda support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do. Google and the others are the same; nobody wants to re-enable the option after Apple fought the FBI so there will never be a precedent. It may be possible to get in with 3rd party software, but don't hold your breath; a lot of the newer phones encrypt by default (and if not, strongly encourage it/make it one-way) with a passcode and often use the passcode (or a private key nobody, even the manufacturer) can access.
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Google and the others are the same; nobody will ever re-enable backup options which can be reversed by the manufacturer after Apple vs. FBI, because if you lock yourselves out of the phone then you can say there's nothing you can do, legally. Nobody wants to set that precedent, so it means in cases where you forget there's no other solution. It may be possible with 3rd party SW on a non-encrypted phone, but a lot of phones use the passcode AS the key or an inaccessible private key+passcode (even the manufacturer!).
With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor. It's been like this since Android 6, so it's been unsupported for years at this point.
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They used to kinda support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do. Google and the others are the same; nobody wants to re-enable the option after Apple fought the FBI so there will never be a precedent.
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They used to kinda support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do. Google and the others are the same; nobody wants to re-enable the option after Apple fought the FBI so there will never be a precedent. It may be possible to get in with 3rd party software, but don't hold your breath; a lot of the newer phones encrypt by default (and if not, strongly encourage it/make it one-way) with a passcode and often use the passcode (or a private key nobody, even the manufacturer) can access.
With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor. It's been like this since Android 6, so it's been unsupported for years at this point.
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They used to kinda support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)|new_window=true] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do.
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They used to kinda support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do. Google and the others are the same; nobody wants to re-enable the option after Apple fought the FBI so there will never be a precedent.
With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor.
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With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor. It's been like this since Android 6, so it's been unsupported for years at this point.
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They used to kinda support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do.
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They used to kinda support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [link|https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)|new_window=true] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do.
With Samsung for the past 5+ years, they now have no backdoor.
They used to kinda support it on the early Android phones using the Google account, but that came to an end by Google AND Samsung after the [https://epic.org/documents/apple-v-fbi-2/|FBI picked a fight with Apple (and lost)] for good and starting to encrypt the phones so they can tell the government there is no backdoor and there's nothing they can do.