Still no working fixes available it's not the wire it's not the controller the Bluetooth chip was replaced so it's not that, the wifi antennas we're replaced that wasn't it, bought a third party device which allows controllers to connect as in wires connection but through the Bluetooth of the USB device will connect to safe boot through the device as it were wired into the console, but still won't allow me to get passed the press the PS button during startup and the console is reformatted so there's no getting past the set up screen without connecting the controller hopefully this helps people understand it's not a simple issue you'd of ran into before, it's a very weird and should of been fixed with everything tried to it. Except its not reformating changing hard drives everything you can think we've tried it, brand new OEM Controllers with brand new OEM wires not for charging for pairing.. all these little fixes are not what are issue is. Thanks for the help, but if your just going to suggest the same things over and over, maybe you should actually read the post and the comments, cause having hopes when I get an email from ifixit having someone comment and it's the same thing as your wire is meant for charging, is honestly insulting at this point with how much some of us have spend on a single console worth less than what we paid trying to solve it's issue.