Well folks. . .feel free to read the whole thread of both lines of conversation - perhaps you’ll pick up something I missed; but since I can’t vote yes on “Problem solved” for Both, then I can’t rightly select that for either – because BOTH are right, in its proper context. I will explain. . .
EXP: Dan is speaking from a Highly Professional point of view; and, really everything he is saying is Technically correct [to the best of my ability to verify]. However, being “right” doesn’t ALWAYS mean the opposing view is “wrong”. What is true as viewed from the East side, might not be so true when viewed from the West side.
As you can see, I frustrated Dan at the very end, as I was trying to pull out of him what he actually knows. He spent too much time repeating himself, most of which was unnecessary, but, somehow, I just wasn’t able to communicate my exact questions that needed answered, so he re-answered some things, others he didn’t answer at all.
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The bottom line is,in reviewing different sites, even in the Q & A section, on the much touted [link|https://beetstech.com/blog/apple-proprietary-ssd-ultimate-guide-to-specs-and-upgrades|“Apple’s Proprietary SSDs”|new_window=true] as well as in reviewing Amazon’s 1000’s of users who have successfully installed an adapter to iMacs and MacBooks to be able to utilize the M.2 PCIe. . .MOST of these agree with Simon’s recommendation. One has to believe that if the outcomes tended to end up as complete failure of the SSD in 9 month’s there would be MUCH more posts out there reflecting this. . . Fact is, I DON’T see Any! Therefore, I HAVE to conclude that Simon’s point of view is “Practically Correct” . . . it DOES work AND it can work, over long-term.
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The BOTTOM LINE IS: In reviewing different sites, even in the Q & A section, on the much touted [link|https://beetstech.com/blog/apple-proprietary-ssd-ultimate-guide-to-specs-and-upgrades|“Apple’s Proprietary SSDs”] as well as in reviewing Amazon’s 1000’s of users who have successfully installed an adapter to iMacs and MacBooks to be able to utilize the M.2 PCIe. . .MOST of these agree with Simon’s recommendation. One has to believe that if the outcomes tended to end up as complete failure of the SSD in 9 month’s there would be MUCH more posts out there reflecting this. . . Fact is, I DON’T see Any! Therefore, I HAVE to conclude that Simon’s point of view is “Practically Correct” . . . it DOES work AND it can work, over long-term.
Furthermore, I believe I verified different times with Dan [This is the ONE place I did specifically ask for him to repeat himself], the explanation for the large amount of the SSD failures he has seen, is highly likely due to:
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Small Drives
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-Small Drives
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Drives filled too full
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-Drives filled too full
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Extensive Read/Write usage
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-Extensive Read/Write usage
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Too limited RAM, increasing Virtual RAM writes to SSD.
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-Too limited RAM, increasing Virtual RAM writes to SSD.
These are the NO-Nos listed for any NAND technology, including smart phones. SO. . .the question that remains is: “Is this because of the M.2 Adapter OR is it because of improper SSD use [not understanding it’s limitations]?”.
Since, according to Dan AND everywhere else I have looked, other hardware, software failure, Panics, etc. are NOT the result of an M.2 adapter; to me, this actually lends credibility to its ultimate compatibility and the acceptability of adapter usage. NOT that no one had any such problems, but from what I have seen, there is a fix for all of them; and for the few that there might not be. . .is it possible with all of the reported success, that these might be counted up as defective adapters; SSDs OR operator/installer error?
Another thing to mind, and I sure wish I could have gotten Simon to respond to my queries on this, but there is NO DOUBT that there are good and bad M.2 adapters. Some, inexplicably reduce the throughput by utilizing only 1 Lane! So, the proper Adapter, working in conjunction with a compatible PCIe, IS CRITICAL to making this a “happy ending”.
I am sure that Dan will believe that I slighted his knowledge, but this is FAR from the truth. His knowledge, very much, helped me come to this conclusion. Just because I don’t come out at the same point, doesn’t mean that I ignored his advice. I just wish I hadn’t “worn him out” and caused him to give up on me. I haven’t given up on him; he certainly knows what he is talking about.
Well folks. . .feel free to read the whole thread of both lines of conversation - perhaps you’ll pick up something I missed; but since I can’t vote yes on “Problem solved” for Both, then I can’t rightly select that for either – because BOTH are right, in its proper context. I will explain. . .
EXP: Dan is speaking from a Highly Professional point of view; and, really everything he is saying is Technically correct [to the best of my ability to verify]. However, being “right” doesn’t ALWAYS mean the opposing view is “wrong”. What is true as viewed from the East side, might not be so true when viewed from the West side.
As you can see, I frustrated Dan at the very end, as I was trying to pull out of him what he actually knows. He spent too much time repeating himself, most of which was unnecessary, but, somehow, I just wasn’t able to communicate my exact questions that needed answered, so he re-answered some things, others he didn’t answer at all.
The bottom line is, in reviewing different sites, even in the Q & A section, on the much touted [link|https://beetstech.com/blog/apple-proprietary-ssd-ultimate-guide-to-specs-and-upgrades|“Apple’s Proprietary SSDs”|new_window=true] as well as in reviewing Amazon’s 1000’s of users who have successfully installed an adapter to iMacs and MacBooks to be able to utilize the M.2 PCIe. . .MOST of these agree with Simon’s recommendation. One has to believe that if the outcomes tended to end up as complete failure of the SSD in 9 month’s there would be MUCH more posts out there reflecting this. . . Fact is, I DON’T see Any! Therefore, I HAVE to conclude that Simon’s point of view is “Practically Correct” . . . it DOES work AND it can work, over long-term.
Furthermore, I believe I verified different times with Dan [This is the ONE place I did specifically ask for him to repeat himself], the explanation for the large amount of the SSD failures he has seen, is highly likely due to:
Small Drives
Drives filled too full
Extensive Read/Write usage
Too limited RAM, increasing Virtual RAM writes to SSD.
These are the NO-Nos listed for any NAND technology, including smart phones. SO. . .the question that remains is: “Is this because of the M.2 Adapter OR is it because of improper SSD use [not understanding it’s limitations]?”.
Since, according to Dan AND everywhere else I have looked, other hardware, software failure, Panics, etc. are NOT the result of an M.2 adapter; to me, this actually lends credibility to its ultimate compatibility and the acceptability of adapter usage. NOT that no one had any such problems, but from what I have seen, there is a fix for all of them; and for the few that there might not be. . .is it possible with all of the reported success, that these might be counted up as defective adapters; SSDs OR operator/installer error?
Another thing to mind, and I sure wish I could have gotten Simon to respond to my queries on this, but there is NO DOUBT that there are good and bad M.2 adapters. Some, inexplicably reduce the throughput by utilizing only 1 Lane! So, the proper Adapter, working in conjunction with a compatible PCIe, IS CRITICAL to making this a “happy ending”.
I am sure that Dan will believe that I slighted his knowledge, but this is FAR from the truth. His knowledge, very much, helped me come to this conclusion. Just because I don’t come out at the same point, doesn’t mean that I ignored his advice. I just wish I hadn’t “worn him out” and caused him to give up on me. I haven’t given up on him; he certainly knows what he is talking about.