EVEN if you were right ... or BOTH of you who thought this -- were correct.For the other 95%of people who'd be wrong to follow this advice? Please understand that my condescension is for the absurdity that beer spilled on a computer ISN'T the effing issue!! No no! It's... the freaking THERMAL paste. <EYES! Rolling.> Eyebrows... on the back of my head. ARE! YOU!SERIOUS!?
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This is a complete non sequitur to discuss thermal compounds in the context of liquid damage. EVEN if you were right ... IF it's in fact a " BOTH of you" scenario that both of you? discussing this issue had spills preceding your higher "temperatures/fans" after a spill which was cured by focusing on the thermal compound... and solved it by doing so? Please, if you've spilled crap on your computer and upon it being "fixed" it has high fans... don't look to the thermal paste as.... "The Problem."
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So...... you spilled crap on your computer... then,fixed it by "cleeeeeeaning it" -- only to think... it MUST be the THERMAL COMPOUND which caused the fans to go nuts?
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To the gentleman who thought this -- (if I understand correctly) "high fans were caused by the thermal paste" -- ?? And holy crap; IF you were magically "right" ...?
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Fur rills?
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For the other 95% of people who'd be wrong to follow this assumption that thermal paste, and not a physical problem -- after your Retina had a draaank? No. It's not the thermal paste... and if it is?? Please just move this to somewhere in a discussion of EXCLUSIVELY thermal paste.
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K. Lets try this again.Did either you check to see if any of the components which have thermal sensors on them --or the cables which connected them... were damaged?
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This here is a conflation between solving liquid damage with thermal compound behavior per type of thermal compound and each respective MBP / MBPr / MBA etc.
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You could probably run the ASD that you can download on your machine by
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My condescension is because I find the presumption to be absurdity; a beer spilled on a computer's NOT the problem...? No no -- it's... the THERMAL paste.
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Eye Roll.
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Eyebrows on the back of my head.
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SERIOUSLY!? Fur rills?
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- Turn off your computer (100% OFF off)
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If I may suggest to others... and try this again. Operating on the assumption that, if not the author of this post, others of you have given your Mac a drank, here's my approach and also, a silly little pet peeve of mine... in that, we have to restart laptops and option boot about 100x per day collectively; so wasting 20 seconds every time feels like an (avoidable) eternity.
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- Power it on, but press NOTHING until you see the backlight of your display come on. (This may mean your display turned ever so slightly grey from the BL turning on, WATCH CLOSELY. Don't press buttons before it powers on (which may not chime if you've disabled it via terminal or have the volume down/off). IF you press anything before your computer's responded to pressing the power button (there's a lag between that request and the response) it will elongate those events... whether you're going to then hold option to option-boot in to a different device than default, go to single user, Diagnostics, etc etc.
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Did you check to see if any of the components with thermal sensors - or the cables which connected components with thermal sensors were damaged?
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- hold D as soon as it has turned on. As I said, this could be a black screen (updated EFI) turning ever so slightly gray, which is virtually invisible in a bright room... or, in the 2012/2013 EFI's mode, bright and white.
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Obviously, corrosion, shorts, brittle transistors, fuses, ICs... that's just a given.
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- Select the internet connection you'll use for Apple to provide the diagnostic image... and check to see if you have any faults.
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If you see no, but still hear some -- evil...? (fans)
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Find none?? Download the appropriate ASD. That might help.
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'''Running the ASD downloadable on your machine for those who either want to DIY'''
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... or are too cheap to bring it somewhere truly adept and '''stocked''' with parts to test and repair liquid damaged machines!. If your computer shut down from liquid - you think you've fixed it... and then turn it on? You might now burn out your display trying to verify this. We have CRACKED displays we give not a sh*t about -- which we would test your unit on to verify if there's a problem that'd kill a display. Sometimes -- we've had displays that kill logic boards! If you're SURE you're SURE that you want to play with your $1000+ unit? Here ya go.
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Buy a parts unit, replace the Trackpad, TP Cable, etc.
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- Turning off your computer (100% OFF off)
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- Power it on, but press NOTHING until it's truly on. (See below, "Actually On!")
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- hold D as soon as it '''HAS, truly,''' turned on.
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- Select a network to get Apple's diagnostic image (NOT recovery partition).
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- check for any faults.
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- Found none?
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- Download your model's ASD
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- Find installation instructions (usually for a USB drive) and option-boot from it.
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- Found none?? - Buy a parts unit, replace the Trackpad, TP Cable, etc.
High fans after liquid spill being blamed immediately on freaking THERMAL COMPOUND??? Kinda wishful thinking.
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"Actually On"
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Some of you may see clearly -- a white image appear on your display once your computer's turned on. This is perhaps the pre Sierra (or maybe El Cap) style of turning on. Some of your computer's turn on with a screen that's almost as black as the black it is when off. If you look very very closely (especially hard in a bright room or bright lights directly behind your display) you'll see it turn ever so slightly grey; it's just been powered by the backlight. NOW it's on. And now, whether its when it turned white for those of you whom it does -- or turned gray, for those of you which it doesn't! Is when you should start holding down whichever feature you want to invoke to supercede your standard/default power-on process.
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Remember -- it may not chime! Chime can be disabled it via terminal, or, if the volume is down/off, NO CHIME. But if it DOES chime, again, this marks when to initiate your default startup command which INTERVENES with your standard startup process!
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Pressing anything before your computer's responded to power by either audibly, visibly, or both... will elongate the time it takes for your computer TO power on... after hitting the power button.
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I.e., IF YOU HOLD THE OPTION BUTTON (or any actionable button/combination)
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It will take noticeably, substantially longer to actually chime/start.
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ANYTHING:
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- holding option to option-boot in to a different device than default
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- going to single user mode
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- Diagnostics
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This could be a black screen (updated EFI) turning ever so slightly gray, virtually invisible in a bright room... or, in the 2012/2013 EFI's mode, bright and white or even white and chiming, negating the need to watch carefully. Doesn't matter... all the same thing. WAIT FOR IT TO RESPOND TO POWER... Then... use your action key (key combo) and you won't get the penalty for doing so.
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LAST: IF YOU HAVEN'T. GO TO
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This will save about 30 seconds of 'hunting on a black or white screen' prior to the Apple logo coming up, which indicates having found a viable boot option and using it.
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APPLE WILL USE YOUR INTERNAL HARD DRIVE LAST, AFTER CHECKING ALL OTHER OPTIONS FIRST IF YOU DO NOT SELECT YOUR HARD DRIVE.
EVEN if you were right ... or BOTH of you who thought this -- were correct. For the other 95% of people who'd be wrong to follow this advice? Please understand that my condescension is for the absurdity that beer spilled on a computer ISN'T the effing issue!! No no! It's... the freaking THERMAL paste. <EYES! Rolling.> Eyebrows... on the back of my head. ARE! YOU! SERIOUS!?
So...... you spilled crap on your computer... then, fixed it by "cleeeeeeaning it" -- only to think... it MUST be the THERMAL COMPOUND which caused the fans to go nuts?
Fur rills?
K. Lets try this again. Did either you check to see if any of the components which have thermal sensors on them -- or the cables which connected them... were damaged?
You could probably run the ASD that you can download on your machine by
- Turn off your computer (100% OFF off)
- Power it on, but press NOTHING until you see the backlight of your display come on. (This may mean your display turned ever so slightly grey from the BL turning on, WATCH CLOSELY. Don't press buttons before it powers on (which may not chime if you've disabled it via terminal or have the volume down/off). IF you press anything before your computer's responded to pressing the power button (there's a lag between that request and the response) it will elongate those events... whether you're going to then hold option to option-boot in to a different device than default, go to single user, Diagnostics, etc etc.
- hold D as soon as it has turned on. As I said, this could be a black screen (updated EFI) turning ever so slightly gray, which is virtually invisible in a bright room... or, in the 2012/2013 EFI's mode, bright and white.
- Select the internet connection you'll use for Apple to provide the diagnostic image... and check to see if you have any faults.
Find none?? Download the appropriate ASD. That might help.
Buy a parts unit, replace the Trackpad, TP Cable, etc.
High fans after liquid spill being blamed immediately on freaking THERMAL COMPOUND??? Kinda wishful thinking.