@oldturkey03 we are going to see a lot more of this question on different Macs so I changed the title to be more inclusive. Now I've lost the ability to move the former comments down to this answer. Seems like this change was made without really asking us @kaykay and I'm not a happy camper to lose that option. what am I supposed to do with "me too" answers now? These changes were made after the staff listened to a 14 year old and the change reflects that wisdom. How do I move the comments from above to this answer?